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.s. universities, over 40 universities in the united states and we've created over 20 companies to date and hundreds of jobs in those companies. >> a lot of people believe in this charged election season that business and the government can't work together, can't collaborate. i assume that this is an example that you would say belies that premise. >> we absolutely agree that the government and private equity can work together. there are many challenges that the dod is facing and they're coming up with solutions, technical solutions to that in cyber security, in wireless communications. those things have direct applications to the commercial marketplace and we can create companies around those and go to market here in the u.s. with them. >> give me some examples where in the past, defense oriented technologies or defense developed technologies have become a successful private market products and tell me as you think about this intellectual property that the government owns, what do you think has the most promise now for the next gen products? >> dod labs had had long been a rich source o
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